Sunday, December 25, 2005

Merry Christmas Everyone!!!

-----------------------------------MERRY CHRISTMAS------------------------------------

Merry christmas to everyone.. Jesus's Birthday today yet we are recieving present not him.. ??? how come?This year , simple and nice.. Just had a simple dinner and countdown . Take a look at Adrain Look like Wat? Elf?


Funny rites?
i recieve 3 presents this year.. Take a look Kotex!!! Diao .. Like this how to heng heng??? Anyone from someone special Cool? Adidas sockes and shirt!! Muack!!! One more lagi better Wear Liao sure LAGI HuaT!! Haa !! See Wat i mean? COOL? from my darling


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Thursday, December 22, 2005

NightMare!!

I think finally my nightmare is over after waiting till yesterday!! you all know y? Yesterday was the announcement of my results. I was waiting to packet my modules of DSP and Integrated Electronic luckily i din , maybe because i am kind hearted? Bull shit lah..
I think they moderated alot this year.. Somemore , they are using the GPA System like Nus got A +, B+ B B-.. So many grading lors.... See liao also blur.
Most of my results are B and C except 1 D on the Stupid Dsp.. I was expecting a F lah.. Coz i only know how to do one question lor.. How to enjoy my holidays rite?
Now... Waiting for my Attachments.. Yawns...

Tuesday, December 20, 2005

New Shoes

Yesterday shop for whole day while servicing my stupid N70 at suntec.. all the service girls CMI one lor.. Plump plump one.. Stilll let pl wait so long for updating software only... 5 hours.. Queue for service took me an hour liao.. Heard alot pl complaining about the service lor.. I think the managment must be a Girl leh!! She dun have business strategy .

When customers are angry employ pretty girl to service them lah.. Let them cool their heads Off... Somemore orchard area.. Somemore the system cock up lor.. At the back they should have people preparing the phone once for collect.. Not like ask for queue number then take 10 minutes to search your phone!!

How? Purposely make pl wait or reduce the services . This will lead consumer to look for better service line.. See mercede all the service so good! Hai.. Forget it... Finally got my phone back.. shop for 10 shoe shops lor..
Finally get one
How do you think ? Nice? Any comments?

Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Too lazy to put one



Recently quite busy have been shopping around for clothings as new year is coming and sis wedding is coming also.. Dunno wat to buy men.. Went to Zara on Monday .. i went to try a suit pretty cool men.. But got to bring my sis there to take a look.. Let me show u all . I find that it look good . But yesterday i went to Double up to custom make a suit. So i tell that auntie i want suit with strip material... U know wat they tell me? Ah di.. Strip one is Ah peh wear one.. Then she show me Totally grey and black one.. Lor... turn me off me.. someone mention about Andy lau.. Then she ask who isit.. Then i know she like living in her own world.. Pengs..
ZARA where got for ah peh.. For age like me ok!! haa.. I think i set my mind lor.. Sure going to buy this coming week end.. !!!

Saturday, December 10, 2005

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Have been a long time since i write my daily dairy . abit busy men hee.. Today finally caught up with my darling . you know who?? Wahaa only he know.. haa.. Adrian also join us for lunch at johnson Duck.. Usually i don't go there to eat one.Coz of the stupid forks that are make of plastic. How to eat you all tell me?? Stupid ritE? Eat two to three times a year only lor. As usual wait for our exercise .. Guess wat is it? BADMINTOn... have been playing like alternate day even during exam period lor.. Last week Adrain , kelvin and me still went to Jb To buy Racket.. Adrain usually go for Yonex. Muscle power 29 i think.. Which cost about Rm 155 . Quite cheap compare to singapore.. Damm it.. the auntie always say " never earn your money... As well close shop" It like double the price in singapore which cost $140 .. Where else Kelvin and I bought the Wilson brand... the latest one ba i think.. Ncode 6 and ncode 5 if i am not wrong.. The price show there is about over RM 300 .. Super light men.. no need to use so much strength..
I think i hurt my hand during the game.. going for acupuncture tomorrow.. I hurt it since last week.. cannot really play well... hai.... just play for 2 hours only
After that went over to chinatown to Eat CLAYPOT , Mutton Soup , Fish ball noodle, OTAk, Pig organ Soup, Yam Cakes. Guess the number of people going? Only 4... We were eating for two times coz need to wait for the claypot .. Damm long queue.. so we move nearer to the stall after eating those small dishes.. Damm full.. Think the exercise wasted lor.. Eat so much.. Haa...
Adrain keep saying " jian fei" I asked him to walk home lor... Is the best to jian fei.. or do 1000 sit ups a day.. haa.. How to jian???
Christmas is coming lor.. Whoever reading better prepare me a present hor..Wahaa.. This year nothing much at the orchard lor.. aLl the lightings like budget lor... Stingy men.. How to attract more tourists? Telling them that we only celebrate New yearS?
I was wondering lor... Surely the tourists reduce alot one.. Can't be waiting for the integrated resort to open meh? As if the lightings or service is much more better than Las vegas Lor.. Rite?
Which ever singaporean will go and play also? $100 per entry? sound like we pay to see the system or inside got Zoo? 100 can eat alor lot... Super lazy to type liao.. Tomo Then tell u all story...

Thursday, October 06, 2005

Time To Start My Engine




Lots and lots of things happens last week Delvin's birthday ... time to update some photos.... Actually it is a surpise for him.. he was going shopping with odelia but we make ourselves appear in the same shopping complex to surpise him .. Planning was not that well.. coz we all caught in the jam so unable to act like we met him there.. he reaches marina square quite early too..

This cake is esp for him. That day , we ate alot.. Pork rip plus chickens chops.. Yeah , food make me think of yesterday incident.. NAbei.. Got summon when i was having my lunch with bern.. Wah... can u imagine.. Eat a set of bak ku tea Cos ard $88 dollars? As well got brazilian buffet eat much more better.. Damm it.. From far i saw a white helmet floating ard..( cover up by my car)... I think the guy abit short lah..
So i rush over there.. TOO LATE.... Parking at continous white line.. COck lor.. ask me to park at the T junction..
Where there is also white line.. As all the driver know.. We are not able to park any exit within 10 meters ritE? He said there can park there.. Cmon lor.. According to books, There also cannot park.. Or else the white line for wat? Dog to walk meh?? Knn.... He wan to summon as well summon everyone..
SOme more the zig zag lines is not everywhere except the place where i park lor.. If they want.. they as well paint the whole road.. leave that part make me think that can park... My $70 dollar.. Can pump alot petrol lor.. He asked me to go appeal at ubin in 2 weeks time.. Siao bo? U think i so eng arh.. go untill so far... Somemore, u think appeal works all the time meh? Then y they give summon ??for song arh?
#@#@##@# Pissed off@!@!#@!#@##@

Wednesday, September 21, 2005

I wanna Sleep!!!!

Late middle of the nite, yet i am still online struggling with my communication princple... Someone help me... I am getting older liao lor.. Everyday not enough sleep!! how? Chao lao liao...Maybe typing all the equation here will help me to memorize all the formula faster.. Please bear with me everyone.. I just wan to find a place to nag and release all my stress by typing.. GEee... I am on my way to the last tutorial... Using eye power to study.. Dunno can make it tomorrow or not... I always tell myself to start to hand on every semster.. yet i am still doing the same thing.. Maybe What the old ones say is true.. Leopard never change it's spot!! That me.. Si XIng bu kai... I learn about alot of narrow band freq modulation.. Wider band.. All sort of rubbish.. Let get serious lah. u think we will still use all this in the future.. All is done by computer liao lor.. only need to learn how to operate computer.... Any heard of bessel function? Look for the search engine u might find it.. IS it useful? Wat we learn in uni is all the basic need only wat .. Do we really use them in the future? Who know... The company might be please to hear.. " oh you got a Degree.. That's good" May be they will treat u better lor..
Imagination : I was always thinking to just to get my Olevel Cert to apply for job.. Wahaa dunno wat they will think.. After few years, ask for promotion.. Then the manager might say : " It's not that i dun wan. But you only got O level Cert , How? " Then i will bring out my diploma.. Gee.. Manager lan lan rite?
Later on ask for Increment... Manager might say : " Maybe we will increment u after u upgrade in your course or and get a part time study... haa~~ .. There come my Degree CErt... Manager will think .. Nabei this siao kai got how many certs hiding.. haa.. Maybe up to PHd? Pengs.....
Just a joke.... U think i so Eng meh?? Get a Phd? I think i cannot make it lor... Die with the books lor... Go and think.... All the big boss got Degree meh?? Hong Kong Richest man.. Mr Lee , i think he also no Cert lor..
ALl big boss mind tink alike.. They only got this in their mind >>

Monday, September 19, 2005

Quiz!! Quiz!! Every week Quiz!!

Tomorrow Got Integrated Electronic Quiz!! Sian men.. Next day got Communication Principle.. Follow By my project! Wah great impact men.. C'mon Wat the meaning of Study? To get A cert and work like slave in the outside World? If Schooling still cannot enjoy.. Y study? y dun start early to work like slave leh.. I am always thinking how am i going to survive men!! 1.5 ++ years more..!!! And Every day attend lecture , fall asleep.. U think i wan meh? Now i understand y my dog look at me this way . It just like the way i reacte when the lecturere talk in lecture.. I dun understand Wat the fuck u talking about.. It very tiring to catch wat people wan to tell u . you know? After this week got math Quiz follow by Physic quiz!!! Wah They think we eng nothing to do isit? When i can i go out n have a walk? I need a break men...Help... Busy busy... Hai...

Friday, September 16, 2005

Busy Study week For me

Sorry everyone that i din update my blog.. Got reasons one!! Have been studying for the past 5 days... Preparing for all the quizes coming up.. Wah liao eh. Dunno wat the hack the Lecturers are teaching lor.. wasting my time men.. I dun even know to do the tutorial lor... Notes dun understand how am i able to do rite? All my notes are picture form.. A pic speak a thousand words lor.. When i check my text the meaning behind each picture.... can u imagine.. It really take 1000 words to explain how each circuit work.. so i got the entire pictures.. I going to read the how textbook? able 500 pages lor in a single week? Diao!! no need to sleep and watch soccer lor.. I am going to complain to dean that our lecturers super lazy... If those no textbk how? Eat The pictures meh? How can they like this?? waste lecture notes waste textbook waste time also..End up just a subject that take so many effort to get a " D " Looking forward for my IA , At least still not that bad.. work only mah. still got Pay.. haa.. Got one IA need Class 3 license.. I Think go there work become delivery man lor.. Can u imagine that.. University IA is to go there become lorry driver? Wat the FK ? After 6 months, i learn all the small roads in Sg.. Better sense of direction that all? Got one company lagi better.. NeED FIT male Students only.. HUH ??? WAt that for? Sell Ass or Carry goods? IA go there is suppose to learn , Not work like GU!! (Cow --> bull ) Nabei.. Think We are Cheap labours rite? Later work for them.. The grade come back " B " how? some even will complain lor.. Working attitude problem.. HOw u want them to work like outside ? Pay 600 the most?
Early morning wake up go IA do the same thing for 6 months.. Pay like 20 dollars per day? 8 hours perday how much? $ 2.5 / hours ? KAO!! I think i go MAc better.. ("welcome to macdonald" ) Maybe still got $3.50
You stand there do 2 hours of works . Eat a meal... That it.. GONE!! your $5 .... I think The company money is "GU Chia lian " << meaning 1 dollar like 100 buck..
Dun wan to complain liao.. Still got alot of frequency have study.. DSBSM + QAM + 1% rules.. Nabei.. Think of it.. WAn to throw the book and go and Drink lor... @#@##@#@!@!#$## One thing To add.. I think Study university alot of the sTudent s "Zui Tat Lan " u know y? One semster we pay how much? WE PAY to GO IA?? Wah liao they think we gong kai meh? The company Gain and school gain lor... Company gain Cheap Labour, School gain Fee to pay the Lecturer.. We leh? Gu Sai... Kanna scold only.. Parents pay us to go work... End up in Calculation, We pay Them In order for us to work.. Some they scold us, we still got to smile at Them.. IF we are engineering Students, u think our math Very lousy meh? dunno how to count.. Still go IA With a fake smile on us.... C'mon lah.. We not Gong leh... Y government dun pay for our IA school fee , in order to encourage us to work toward the future , bringing all the elites together and Fight For our own Country.. Tio bo?

Tuesday, August 30, 2005

OMG !!! MAy God Bless ME!!!!

First of all Let wish haijun Happy 23th Birthday!!!! Hope he enjoy himself tomorrow ok? !!! hee... From the starting of the week, there is a bad omen sign for me.. My car suppose to be service on Monday and i am going to enjoy my half Day off given by my School.. Coz anniversary... End my darling is in the workshop... Blood hell lor... Dunno which Idiot love my car so much that he/she kis my car without my acknowledgement lor... Untill i found out in the morning. Song bo.. So many pics to see... From my judgement, look like bikers... But my workshop tech said that my darling is hard like diamond.. Maybe is lambofalalorry... WTF ?? There something that doubt me.. y i Din hear alarm rang when the driver hit my car.. ?? I got more power conversation i talk to my service advisor



















Advisor : Morning Mr Tay, Your Car so new, First Service?

ME : yup!! how long does it take?

Advisor: erm 2 hours?

Advisor: OMG Wat happen to your Side??

Me : I just notice this morning ... I dunno wat happen?

Advisor: When u come this morning, u blur isit? People knock ur car, u dunno arh..

Me : Pengs..... I am very alert lor.. How can this happen.. Such a big impact.. U think i sleeping in my way arh...

Advisor: WAh piang eh.. Your momo rims also tio.. I check the repair cost how much let u know ok? if you wan your rim to back to original. Tell me, i got 2 places can help u one...

Me: See how lah..

--------------------------------------------------After 2 hours-----------------------------------------------------

Advisor: Mr Tay, my technicians have service your car , Everything is fine.
Btw the repair cost 800 you wan to proceed?

Me(Thinking): Wah kao So jialet liao still wanna tok(Chop) Me...

ME : It's Ok lah.. I got my own workshop man to help me.. Thank alot..

Advisor to Technicians : Mr Tay's Car part all very good except he just know that he side got knock edonly..
So he look very blur...

Me: Thank you....

WAh see?? Advisor so good rite? Diao....

Thursday, August 25, 2005

Busy Week for me

This entire week has been super busy for me.. monday.. Meet up with poly Frenz... Enjoyed the nite with them!! Went to glasshouse to eat.. As usual, we sure took photo for every outing.. Our 2Bo3 Class!! Missed the period in school men.. Now most of them are working , preparing for future liao.. unlike me... Still need to study...


Tuesday was Wenleng's Birthday ... Went to Fish and Co again.. but it different venue.. Yesterday was at glasshouse...Tuesday wheellock place... I just recover from my sickness and i started to eat deep fry food liao.. Think like this, i will never recover back lor.. Order mussles with creams, seafood platters for two and spagettite with mussles.. deep fried caramari ... i think i still like swordfish collar lor.. damm power one...

Wednesday was not fun ... I went to Sim lim to get computer for my company. It was stolen lor... Damm it .Dunno which ass stole the brand new comp in our company.. Hoping to find back the same comp at simlim.. I decided to customize a normal one.. 2.8G enough to use can liao.. Or else waste my effort and time.. Like wat haijun say... Time = money... So dun waste so much time..

Thursday and Friday shag men... 0830 to 0430 for 2 days... I where got time for resT? When can i start reading my notes and do my tutorials... Somemore weekends coming... I need more times lor.. Someone spare me can?

Friday, August 19, 2005

SIM Bash

Attended SIM bash on tuesday , Not bad.. see alot of nerds including myself.. hee... I like the way M1 act men.. He should win lor.. This picture taken in the bash..


The first pic.. Delvin and odelia.. Me and bern.. trying to give him a kiss.. i Din drink much.. From my expression u can tell ..

The second one.. Counting Down to drink finish the whole jug of whisky.. End up we found out that.. some one din Drink...












Started drinking liao...GO!!!!

Poor Delvin Drinking up the rest...

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

Eeee... The Maid


Wahhaa I think i Got nothing better to do lor.. Bern and me went to meet odelia and delvin for dinner ... After that somethings up in our mind.. The Maid.. Got a real Figure at Level 7!! Haa My dream is to take a photo With her.. Wahaa.. While taking the photo, alot of passerby staring at us lor.. we are like enjoying the shots.. haa..
Look Eerie? Wat happen if u happen to see at nite.. then the figure in the pic suddenly move? Wahaa... Trying to be funny rite?

Tuesday, August 16, 2005

Block here , Block There....


This few days damm shag... Everywhere is block up.. Ear block due to block nose.. Make me difficultly in hearing.. Plus breathing lor.. This lead to less update of blog.. Coz lack of O2 cannot think mah.. Looking forward for my union Day... haa!! Some interesting pictures for u all .. Cool Rite? The maid haven start yet you can find this in the Plazza Sing lor.. Wahaha imagine you are watching half way rushing to the Toilet... Then "CHua Tio "(Shock ) by this picture . I also think this will cause someone to get shiok lor, Somemore middle of the nite.. Rite? Got one model outside the ticket booth also.. That one real men.. something up in my head.. What happen i wear all red to the cinema.. Then watching half way, i put "handkchief "(typo?) Then pat on some one shoulder .. I tell u.. The feeling is either i get box or all the people in the cinema scream and run out.. WAhaaa..

Sunday, August 14, 2005

Starting Of EPL~!!


Looking forward for today!! Starting of Epl men! I think the pub will be started to load with crowd and punters. I looking forward for my favourite team Liverpool. I have no bias to anyother team.I don't hate man u also. I think it's a easy win for them. I am still with all my little sickness and it's killing me men... Sound Tired plus look Tired . Something happen during the noon time.. When i was at parallel parking at the food center opps Beauty world... i " muack" the front Car bumper .... He FXXXing hell park so close to me.. make me no way out... Damm it.. First time in my life, such a thing happen..
Can u All see anything happen? He making a big fuss over his Car paint, using Wat Tough Seal protection.. Now i scratch his car. Kb Kp.. Knn lor... I was thinking, if your paint is so Tough.. y my car nothing happen , yet your paint come out? only the bumper got a bit marking only.. He was nagging and i was thinking.. Horsay liao lor.. i think i got my 4d to buy... If i hit first prize, i buy you a new bumper and a new Car for myself.. Since u like your bumper so much.. End up , i asked him to do all the touch up at my mechanic there, then i will settle everything.. He so Gu niang men... Let take a look at my car >> Can see Anything? Not much rite? I also dunno what to say about him.. Damm piss off...
After watching liverpool match 0-0 .... What i can comment is they played quite well!!

Friday, August 12, 2005

It's Bern BirthDay

12Th!! Bern was born Today in the 1981 !! Wahahaa... I promised my brother i would get him a Liverpool Jersey as a birthday Gift for him. Hope he like it alot.Din celebrate with him as it was a full day for me in school .After everything, i met him and my fellow classmates to go town to get him one.. I had look for several places.. All dun have.. Dunno y also.. We went to Taka Stadium x and manage to get the things we wan.. I was aiming for one polo T shirt also Adidas. REd in colour.. Quite Cheap 39 bucks.. but i spent too much liao.. Bern and me each get a white color Jersey ! Liverpool!! all the way.. Geez.. After that he went to had dinner with his family and i continue to shop for Tian tian present .... At last we decided to get her Adidas Jackets which look not bad ! I am going to settle her cake also.. Wan to get her candy cake coz she dun like Candy.. So bad rite!

Thursday, August 11, 2005

Happy BirthDay To Tang Tang!!!

I would like to wish JinTang Happy 23Th BirthDay !!! Hope i Am the first one to wish u Around Early morning 1238Am !!! HeeeX I know TangTang in net for few years liao..But we have endless topics every day !! He is like long lost brother to me men!! haa~~ Wat i can Say I feel honour to know Him as a frenz / brother ! Hope he enjoy the very moment with his love ones!! See u soon brother!! Lucky He still got time for me to meet him up for Dinner.. I am so sorry that i can't make it to your place for lunch Tat day!!

Wednesday, August 10, 2005

Lousy Day...

Waking up feeling the Dryness in my throat, my nose started to block up and cough is along the way... I have been waking up for consecutive times . I dunno y.. Whether is my sickness that make me difficult to sleep or i have sleep enough.. Today only attend 2 tutorials in class.. but it seen to be a long day for me. Rushing home to do wire wrapping ,Stupid project lah.. Write soft and hardwares in 3 lesson.. They think we so Free arh.. 1 Au only.. damm it . After dinner, i think i better drink some cough syrup and flu medicine before the condition get worst. lucky my maid still got cook green bean soup which is "Liang" might help in the healing process... Now waiting for my medicine to get Effect and K o on my bed.. Too Tired and sick to do anything, Although i wAnted to Watch CL tonite!! Liverpool~~ Long time din see the way they played. looking forward for SAT 13 of August which is the starting of premium league!@~

Tuesday, August 09, 2005

Happy BirthDay Singapore!!!


HaPpi 40Th BirThdAy to Singapore !!!!~~ Which Means today is Also Holiday for Me!!! Wake up early in the morning 9 am , Still thinking Wat else Can i Do Later... Had a packet of Carrot Cake but i don't like it cause there is little portion of eggs!!! Eat too much Carrot will become " Robert" that was what my frenzs told me, who care rite? In the afternoon, We went bugis to pray for peace.. hee . I went to get myself a pillow.. Damm cheap lor.. Think because of national Day $7.50.. Where got such thing rite.. We went to watch Bewitched. Nice comedy show men. Esp nicole kid! She can act very well . After that, we planned to watch firework.. But after seeing all the road is close down for parade.. We went to marina South. End up Ecp also jam like hell lor. All the critizens stop their car to watch the fireworks.. Too cramp for me liao and i hate traffic jam.So we decided to go to MT Faber!! I think that the best place to watch firework.. Some people there waiting for the precious moments . Lucky i get there in time to see all the fireworks.. I find that Mt Faber is also a good place to see, better than nothing u know? heez .. At least i get to see the fireworks from all different area.. Last time is national stadium because i am involve.. when i was young i was at home watching it. Geex I did enjoy myself alot and memorable Nite!

Monday, August 08, 2005

Tiring Day For me!!!

Slept around 330am last nite..Rush to School and attend 5 lectures and a tutorial Straight.. After that went to help my sis to format her computer!! But still not so bad, tomorrow is National DAY!!! Later going to attend frenz BBq .. maybe their family got celebration for national day. The family over there were so friendly.. Keep serving me food.. I tried their mussles with Cheese which i like the best esp put some garlic on top of it!! Cool men!! Her sis specially made satays was power also!! I drank quite a few glasses of Red Wine and.... found a super big queen size bed... K.O .. When i saw a bed ,that it!! I only knew that i was lying on the bed watching tv and started to close my eyes.. yet nobody asked me to wake up.. Maybe i was too tired. When i felt the pain in my head, it was about 2am liao.. I had slept for ard 3 hours.. i also din know..It was too comfortable.. I felt the thirst in my throat that annoy me. Thank For the food and Drink plus bed.. Although we planned to go to watch fireworks. End up i was sleeping.. Gees....At least , i still managed to drive home to sleep .... ( :

Sunday, August 07, 2005

Family Day For me!!

Have been drinking for the past 3 days. Still left half bottle of vodka on the self. Through this 3 days, i have been thinking alots of things in my mind... What does a friendship mean? Some don't see it easy... When u have friends, are you suppose to share problems and joys with them Or more problems? If more problems, Is this really call friendship ? There are some like making use of one another, after that dump them aside ... Sadness... At Least for me.. i still find that all my frenz all very good. I love them MuackS!! Time to settle my problems also!! Alot of things for me to do!! Buy Arm Chair, Bring pao pao to Vet and have a good chat with my family!!
Finally saw my dad coming home so early this sunday!! 1 pm!!! Drag him out to bugis to walk around.. He only bought a pair of glasses that all.. Guess how much? " $35" Dollars... Haa Can't believe it. My brother went fishing and brought back alot of "Flower Crabs" . My mummy was arguing that he bought them instead of catching them because those crabs were tied up neatly.. During dinner time, my mum was telling my grandma that she Knew how to see which tomato is sour.. Guess waT? My dad suddenly said: " I only know how to Eat.." Pengs.... All staring at him.. Haa.Now waiting for match to start.. Nothing much To do.. Feel so sleepy that all!!

Saturday, August 06, 2005

Boring Weekends~~~

Going to Sim lim to get my softwares with bern and adrain!! Hopefully can get what i Want!! But actually all this is not for me...
Waiting for Sunday night between the two big teamS!!! What i hope is of course Arsenal win or draw. Although i like chelsea but i hate the cocky coach!!!
Lazy too start on my project.. Any peer pressure? Doing all the stupide wire wrapping is only wasting my time and spoil my eyesights although my eyes are already 900 degreeee... How much more can it cause?